Xicoy - LG15 Gyro Controlled Brakes
#351
I put in 2S LiPo into the JP controller and it's output was 7.5 VDC. I just figured that they had a VR in the controller. Anyway, my JP controller went in the trash.
By the way, my Ultra-flash's turbine exploded this weekend when I was taxiing out to take off. It Destroyed the turbine totally and caught the fuse on fire a bit. The LGC 15 from that one is now a spare.
By the way, my Ultra-flash's turbine exploded this weekend when I was taxiing out to take off. It Destroyed the turbine totally and caught the fuse on fire a bit. The LGC 15 from that one is now a spare.
#352
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I put in 2S LiPo into the JP controller and it's output was 7.5 VDC. I just figured that they had a VR in the controller. Anyway, my JP controller went in the trash.
By the way, my Ultra-flash's turbine exploded this weekend when I was taxiing out to take off. It Destroyed the turbine totally and caught the fuse on fire a bit. The LGC 15 from that one is now a spare.
By the way, my Ultra-flash's turbine exploded this weekend when I was taxiing out to take off. It Destroyed the turbine totally and caught the fuse on fire a bit. The LGC 15 from that one is now a spare.
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Yep, I agree that’s what JP says, however, I have two JP controllers where the input voltage is 8.4 volts and the output voltage is 7.5v, so how do they explain that? I also have two motors that burned up when running unregulated 2S Lipo, yet since I started regulating to 7.5v not a single motor burned in over 75 flights. I’m a big believer in trusting the manufacturer, until they give me reason not too. In this case it was very easy to prove, without a doubt that they have at least some versions of their controllers that reduce output voltage, and at some point in the past were making motors that could not handle more than 7.5ish volts. All I’m saying is trust but verify.
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Interesting issue with my LG15 on my Ultra Flash. I have my 'steering mx' set at 0% in the brake screen, yet, when I go to push the jet around from pits to flight line the brakes activate in response to me swinging the tail around by hand, etc. My other controller is set up the same way but does not do this. I do have gyro braking activated, but that should only come into play when braking, no? Gyro braking is activated on my other jet without this issue.
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Interesting issue with my LG15 on my Ultra Flash. I have my 'steering mx' set at 0% in the brake screen, yet, when I go to push the jet around from pits to flight line the brakes activate in response to me swinging the tail around by hand, etc. My other controller is set up the same way but does not do this. I do have gyro braking activated, but that should only come into play when braking, no? Gyro braking is activated on my other jet without this issue.
This is definitely something I'm going to investigate more. First thing I will do is test the behavior on my three jets with this controller. I have a fourth LGC-15 controller as a spare so I will check that one also. Then I will check the firmware to see if I can narrow down the issue to a particular version of the firmware. -Tom
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I noticed this issue on one of my jets just this past weekend. This particular jet has the Electron GS-200 version of the controller. I have not noticed this behavior on my other two jets with the Xicoy LGC-15 version of the controller. Are you, by and chance, using the Electron GS-200 version on your Ultra Flash? Is your other controller the same Firmware version? Just out of curiosity, does your Ultra Flash have a 3-axis gyro (e.g. Cortex, Mercury SRS...)? If so, do you have the gyro output from your 3-axis gryo to your LGC-15 disabled?
This is definitely something I'm going to investigate more. First thing I will do is test the behavior on my three jets with this controller. I have a fourth LGC-15 controller as a spare so I will check that one also. Then I will check the firmware to see if I can narrow down the issue to a particular version of the firmware. -Tom
This is definitely something I'm going to investigate more. First thing I will do is test the behavior on my three jets with this controller. I have a fourth LGC-15 controller as a spare so I will check that one also. Then I will check the firmware to see if I can narrow down the issue to a particular version of the firmware. -Tom
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I noticed this issue on one of my jets just this past weekend. This particular jet has the Electron GS-200 version of the controller. I have not noticed this behavior on my other two jets with the Xicoy LGC-15 version of the controller. Are you, by and chance, using the Electron GS-200 version on your Ultra Flash? Is your other controller the same Firmware version? Just out of curiosity, does your Ultra Flash have a 3-axis gyro (e.g. Cortex, Mercury SRS...)? If so, do you have the gyro output from your 3-axis gryo to your LGC-15 disabled?
This is definitely something I'm going to investigate more. First thing I will do is test the behavior on my three jets with this controller. I have a fourth LGC-15 controller as a spare so I will check that one also. Then I will check the firmware to see if I can narrow down the issue to a particular version of the firmware. -Tom
This is definitely something I'm going to investigate more. First thing I will do is test the behavior on my three jets with this controller. I have a fourth LGC-15 controller as a spare so I will check that one also. Then I will check the firmware to see if I can narrow down the issue to a particular version of the firmware. -Tom
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This is a Xicoy LG-15 purchased direct from Pacific jets. As far as I know they only offer the LG15 and not the GS200. Not sure of the firmware version. It is only a few months newer than my other unit. I do not run any kind of gyro for any of my flight control surfaces on any of my aircraft so that is a non issue. The gyro refresh rate on this unit in my flash seems to be funky, too. I know my jp brakes are crap, as it seems most all of them are, but they 'seem' to brake fairly evenly. Yet when I come to a stop I can see my nosewheel go crazy as though it's fighting yaw terribly. I only have like 30% gain.
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Interesting issue with my LG15 on my Ultra Flash. I have my 'steering mx' set at 0% in the brake screen, yet, when I go to push the jet around from pits to flight line the brakes activate in response to me swinging the tail around by hand, etc. My other controller is set up the same way but does not do this. I do have gyro braking activated, but that should only come into play when braking, no? Gyro braking is activated on my other jet without this issue.
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OK, going to need some help here, I purchased a LG-15, and in the process of hooking it up and TRYING to program it, it went up in smoke. Ordered a new one, but before I start messing with it when it gets here, I would like to reach out to someone with knowledge of programing one, if anyone thinks they can help me out when the new one arrives, please let me know, the instructions are not to helpful.
Not sure what happened or why, I'm using a DX-18 transmitter, a power safe receiver with 2, 2s lipos feeding it. Had all the gear plugged into controller, had gear out from receiver to gear in on controller, and power for controller plugged into aux channel on receiver for power. This is going in my T-1 mini fortune jet I just received, using the stock retracts that came with it. I then tried the JP brake controller and cant get it to do anything now either. I did check the transmitter using a separate servo in the gear channel, and the gear channel is working when I flip the switch, If anyone can help me when I get the new one, let me know, Thanks
Not sure what happened or why, I'm using a DX-18 transmitter, a power safe receiver with 2, 2s lipos feeding it. Had all the gear plugged into controller, had gear out from receiver to gear in on controller, and power for controller plugged into aux channel on receiver for power. This is going in my T-1 mini fortune jet I just received, using the stock retracts that came with it. I then tried the JP brake controller and cant get it to do anything now either. I did check the transmitter using a separate servo in the gear channel, and the gear channel is working when I flip the switch, If anyone can help me when I get the new one, let me know, Thanks
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I have installed a few LG15 and GS200 which are the same....
First the smoking....the only way you could smoke the controller....with a 2s Lipo...is by reversing the power Into the controller....you may have smoke the JP retract Motors as well if they don't function at all with the JP controller....unless thats smoke as well (should be smelling it easily).
As for programming it....there's already an excellent tread thats should guide you Xicoy - LG15 Gyro Controlled Brakes
Ooopss I didn't realize this one is the tread that explain the LG-15 very well?????.....with this tread from the top....thing should work just fine????
First the smoking....the only way you could smoke the controller....with a 2s Lipo...is by reversing the power Into the controller....you may have smoke the JP retract Motors as well if they don't function at all with the JP controller....unless thats smoke as well (should be smelling it easily).
As for programming it....there's already an excellent tread thats should guide you Xicoy - LG15 Gyro Controlled Brakes
Ooopss I didn't realize this one is the tread that explain the LG-15 very well?????.....with this tread from the top....thing should work just fine????
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Only smoke and or smell I got that I could tell was from the controller, can the retract motors be tested some how without using a controller? ie: applying power directly to positive and negative lead to the retract motors?
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Are you sure you are still getting power from your AUX channel?
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You can manually test the retract but you need to be careful. I use an old 4.8v reciever pack. So if you briefly connect the pack to the retract and hear the motor and see it's moving in the opposite direction from where it is(ie, it's retracted and now it's extending or extended and now retracting, you can let it get close to its fully extended or retracted position but you need to remove power quickly as to not let the voltage sit there while the motor is binding. So if the retract is going in the wrong direction, reverse the polarity.
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You can manually test the retract but you need to be careful. I use an old 4.8v reciever pack. So if you briefly connect the pack to the retract and hear the motor and see it's moving in the opposite direction from where it is(ie, it's retracted and now it's extending or extended and now retracting, you can let it get close to its fully extended or retracted position but you need to remove power quickly as to not let the voltage sit there while the motor is binding. So if the retract is going in the wrong direction, reverse the polarity.
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SO, using a spectrum DX-18 with a AR12120 power safe receiver, what would I set the lg15 to in the rc set up, not using s bus,so would it be single servo, dual servo or what? I would like to run from transmitter gear channel into gear in, then would I plug my retract servos into the ports on the side marked nose, main L and main R?