Xicoy - LG15 Gyro Controlled Brakes
#203
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#204
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This video is really well done and the Electron controller is the exact same as the LG15.
https://youtu.be/5nJzwbkBpKY
https://youtu.be/5nJzwbkBpKY
#205
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This video is really well done and the Electron controller is the exact same as the LG15.
https://youtu.be/5nJzwbkBpKY
https://youtu.be/5nJzwbkBpKY
+2 I agree with you guys, I watched on the treadmill one day and it is all good info.
#206
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Ok ... Thanks for the driver setup links. I've seen them a few times. They're really well done. Today I was setting up ECU + Kingtech telemetry for the turbine. It went pretty well. I do the brake control like Tom and canss69. I think it's more comfortable than the button on the bottom of the Tx. In addition, the brakes will be controlled proportionally. ***winter***
#207
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Ok ... Thanks for the driver setup links. I've seen them a few times. They're really well done. Today I was setting up ECU + Kingtech telemetry for the turbine. It went pretty well. I do the brake control like Tom and canss69. I think it's more comfortable than the button on the bottom of the Tx. In addition, the brakes will be controlled proportionally. ***winter***
#208
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The plane I have with the brakes setup on down elevator doesn’t have an LG15 in it. If it did I would set it up on a slider so I’m not lifting the rear wheels up when I go to add brake, and I’m not wheelbarrowing on the nose gear. With the LG15 once setup right you just hit the slider and let it do the rest itself.
#209
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The plane I have with the brakes setup on down elevator doesn’t have an LG15 in it. If it did I would set it up on a slider so I’m not lifting the rear wheels up when I go to add brake, and I’m not wheelbarrowing on the nose gear. With the LG15 once setup right you just hit the slider and let it do the rest itself.
I'm a little confused. Above wrote:
. camss69 , Today 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by winter1
That is a good idea. Have you set it so that the brakes operate when the elevator control lever moves from 0% (middle stick position) to 100%? And only with the gear extended. ****winter***
That’s how mine are configured.
#210
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The plane I have with the brakes setup on down elevator doesn’t have an LG15 in it. If it did I would set it up on a slider so I’m not lifting the rear wheels up when I go to add brake, and I’m not wheelbarrowing on the nose gear. With the LG15 once setup right you just hit the slider and let it do the rest itself.
#211
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I definitely would not setup a taildragger with brakes mixed to down elevator for that reason. However, on my jets (with a nose wheel) I’ve never experienced any of the wheelbarrowing you describe, and I brake hard due to our short runway. Perhaps wheelbarrowing is possible if you touch down at very high speed, that I would not know. What I don’t understand is why your worried about wheelbarrowing without the LG-15, but you are not worried about it with the LG15?
I didn’t say I wasn’t worried about it with the LG15 I said I would set it up on a slider instead of using down elevator.
When applying down elevator you are putting pressure on the nose wheel that you wouldn’t be if you were using a slider.
#212
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Slider is pretty much the best way to use brake.....because once I get on the brake the plane is no longer flying so I can let go of the right stick.....using elevator down unload the wheel somewhat..
Elevator was used in the dark ages, and encourage by the old folks.....because of the TX programming restrictions back in the days...I since have moved into the 21th century
Elevator was used in the dark ages, and encourage by the old folks.....because of the TX programming restrictions back in the days...I since have moved into the 21th century
#213
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Taildragger?? Where did you get that from?
I didn’t say I wasn’t worried about it with the LG15 I said I would set it up on a slider instead of using down elevator.
When applying down elevator you are putting pressure on the nose wheel that you wouldn’t be if you were using a slider.
I didn’t say I wasn’t worried about it with the LG15 I said I would set it up on a slider instead of using down elevator.
When applying down elevator you are putting pressure on the nose wheel that you wouldn’t be if you were using a slider.
#214
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Ok guys. I'll try both options. Then I'll let you know which one I chose. Each option has its advantages and disadvantages. A - more comfortable operation. Risk of high pressure on the front wheel. B - less comfortable operation. No impact on the front wheel. Thanks a lot. If anyone has any other suggestions - here with them. ***winter***
#215
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Ok guys. I'll try both options. Then I'll let you know which one I chose. Each option has its advantages and disadvantages. A - more comfortable operation. Risk of high pressure on the front wheel. B - less comfortable operation. No impact on the front wheel. Thanks a lot. If anyone has any other suggestions - here with them. ***winter***
#216
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There is another option (that has not been mentioned here) that I've read about elsewhere: using the accelerometer function in Jeti radio to activate brakes. Instead of using a slider or up-stick mix you simply tilt the transmitter to activate the brakes. From what I understand it is proportional, but you would have to make sure you are not tilting the transmitter at touch down otherwise you may inadvertently land with the brakes pre-locked. I like the idea of this method more so than using a slider because the last thing I want to be doing right during one of the most intensive parts of the flight (touch down) is fumbling to find the slider to apply brakes. I understand this would not be an issue for those of you with runways long enough to have the time to transition to the slider for braking, however that is not the case for me as our runway if very short, so getting to the brakes quickly is imperative. I think I'll play around with this the next time I'm out at the field and at least try it out with some high speed taxi. - Tom
#217
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Let me know what you think if you try it, I’d be interested to know. I have Jeti as well and read that before but forgot about it. I actually changed fields to fly jets, I went from a 400’ paved runway to a 600’ petromat, the petromat is great because it’s longer but it’s also a lot slicker so any bit of inconsistent braking and you start sliding sideways.
#218
There is another option (that has not been mentioned here) that I've read about elsewhere: using the accelerometer function in Jeti radio to activate brakes. Instead of using a slider or up-stick mix you simply tilt the transmitter to activate the brakes. From what I understand it is proportional, but you would have to make sure you are not tilting the transmitter at touch down otherwise you may inadvertently land with the brakes pre-locked. I like the idea of this method more so than using a slider because the last thing I want to be doing right during one of the most intensive parts of the flight (touch down) is fumbling to find the slider to apply brakes. I understand this would not be an issue for those of you with runways long enough to have the time to transition to the slider for braking, however that is not the case for me as our runway if very short, so getting to the brakes quickly is imperative. I think I'll play around with this the next time I'm out at the field and at least try it out with some high speed taxi. - Tom
#221
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I need picture, wiring connectors in case of using JETI EXBUS + GS200. Complete wiring + Whether additional power cable is needed on the side: gear ............. steering. ***winter***
#224
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Guys, I said, that English is not my native language. It happens that I misunderstand or overlook something in the manual. Answers that there is something in the manual or that it is a basic wiring will not help me.
When explaining something, I try to be understandable or attach some photos for better understanding.
My main point is whether there will be sufficient power supply servos (cable cross-section). If you need to add some extra cable + - for example to the port: / steering in / or / brake in /. I think yeah it described in the instructions, I just want to confirm it or clarify. Thank you ***winter***
When explaining something, I try to be understandable or attach some photos for better understanding.
My main point is whether there will be sufficient power supply servos (cable cross-section). If you need to add some extra cable + - for example to the port: / steering in / or / brake in /. I think yeah it described in the instructions, I just want to confirm it or clarify. Thank you ***winter***
Last edited by winter1; 02-26-2020 at 05:58 AM.
#225
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I tried the GS200 connection and setup yesterday. It was incredibly easy. Thanks guys / Tom, Dansy, ...... /
What is your current setup: T1 - GS200 / LG15 / - Electron ***winter***
Tom, I think you had the basic setup:
Gyro Gain: -50%
Steering Mix: -60%
Gyro Mix: 60%
Heading Hold
What is your current setup: T1 - GS200 / LG15 / - Electron ***winter***
Tom, I think you had the basic setup:
Gyro Gain: -50%
Steering Mix: -60%
Gyro Mix: 60%
Heading Hold