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06-18-2019, 01:23 AM
Japanese chrome, like Harley chrome has the rust built in..I thought that mini bike would be done by now. My son took one in as a total basket case. Took him a week to put together. He was either 12 or 14. He didn't clean the chrome. Got instructions and relaced new rims himself.
And, of course,A piece of Sullivan Golden Rod would work fine here, as it has in many similar installations
Dont be too hard on Dave. He was spider bit, all this while still recuperating from cutting his finger with a propellor.
News at 10.
And, of course,A piece of Sullivan Golden Rod would work fine here, as it has in many similar installations
Dont be too hard on Dave. He was spider bit, all this while still recuperating from cutting his finger with a propellor.
News at 10.
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06-18-2019, 01:45 AM
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That'll work.Would you use a flexible braided ss wire,
I thought the prop figure you put up for the fa182 twin was about 1000rpm down on what you should get, have you re ringed it?
Gary...could you do me a favour? dave keeps sneaking his xr80 into the background like he likes to do with kermit the harley.Could you tell him if he uses a grey scotchbrite pad and plenty of coca cola the rusty rims and spokes on the xr80 will look much better, works on heavy harley chrome too, cheers mate
I thought the prop figure you put up for the fa182 twin was about 1000rpm down on what you should get, have you re ringed it?
Gary...could you do me a favour? dave keeps sneaking his xr80 into the background like he likes to do with kermit the harley.Could you tell him if he uses a grey scotchbrite pad and plenty of coca cola the rusty rims and spokes on the xr80 will look much better, works on heavy harley chrome too, cheers mate
The Kermit ride is 12 years old, no rust, not a speck. The pipes are the original quiet mufflers.
06-18-2019, 02:08 AM
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What's the attraction to Keleo rings? Costs a lot, no power gains, doesn't allow the use of a standard hsn extender rod, can be a pita to install and doesn't seem to play nice with tricycle front gear. I hope it a least sounds better than 3 individual flex pipes.
If a fella made a conventional style header with a tuned collector would an R3 scavange? Ie do the cylinders fire sequentially?
Edit: Nevermind, sorry, I had a bad day. I think we broke a record around here for how many things need repaired in 24 hrs. I'll spare you all the details.
If a fella made a conventional style header with a tuned collector would an R3 scavange? Ie do the cylinders fire sequentially?
Edit: Nevermind, sorry, I had a bad day. I think we broke a record around here for how many things need repaired in 24 hrs. I'll spare you all the details.
One other thing we need to discuss, do I dare install a pressure tap on the Keleo and where would would be the optimum location.
06-18-2019, 02:45 AM
Nope, just make a little loop standoff bracket to pass the wire thru. Never touches the pipe
BTW, The erector set Triumph is 64 years old and still has perfect original, British chrome.
The Brits took the extra step of plating zinc between the copper and the steel. As a result, Brit chrome outlasts the chrome from almost everyone else.
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06-18-2019, 02:50 AM
The tubing on the Keleo is all the same diameter, I'm not sure where the pressure would be highest. Bernoulli himself may have had trouble telling you where to put the pressure tap.
The BTE Flying King is quite large. Trouble finding a slightly elevated tank location?
06-18-2019, 10:27 AM
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Prop Mounting Talk,
from everything I have read you should mount your RC prop on an angle between 1:30 to 2:30 O-clock. well I understand why, but it seems to me that your engine would be better balanced and run smooth if the prop was mounted straight up when the piston was at TDC.
what you feel about this ??
Jim
from everything I have read you should mount your RC prop on an angle between 1:30 to 2:30 O-clock. well I understand why, but it seems to me that your engine would be better balanced and run smooth if the prop was mounted straight up when the piston was at TDC.
what you feel about this ??
Jim
06-18-2019, 10:42 AM
06-18-2019, 10:56 AM
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06-18-2019, 10:59 AM
LOL happened to me a few weeks ago, but me being dumb. I have my FG-30 on the run up stand sitting in my workshop. I have yet to run it let alone put fuel in it. I was walking past and gave it a flip, Smacked the crap out of my knuckles in the process! I can't believe how much compression it already has from just the few times I flipped it over.
06-18-2019, 12:07 PM
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I ran 16 oz of fuel through it in about 45 minutes, it improved by about 300 rpm doing that. There is probably some more there.
Saito 120 R-3
Prop===MA 13 x 6 three blade
Fuel Wildcat 10% with 18% full syn.
Plugs====(3) ) OS-f
Exhaust==Keleo collector ring.
Max rpm==8,310
Idle 2,110
It's a messy engine
Running at 6,000 rpm
06-18-2019, 12:14 PM
AFAIK . And care, the reason for that is because in an engine stopped dead stick landing a horizontal prop is more likely to survive.
There is just as much to gain as there is to lose balance wise especially if the prop is balanced. Attempts at externally balancing are going to introduce nasty rocking couple imbalances. Yuck!
Right now I am really worried. My pet spider is missing. Last time I saw him, he was helping me pack a Saito muffler that I sent to Hobbsy.
There is just as much to gain as there is to lose balance wise especially if the prop is balanced. Attempts at externally balancing are going to introduce nasty rocking couple imbalances. Yuck!
Right now I am really worried. My pet spider is missing. Last time I saw him, he was helping me pack a Saito muffler that I sent to Hobbsy.
06-18-2019, 12:22 PM
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06-18-2019, 01:20 PM
Kakasaki copied BSA!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawasaki_W_series
BTW, I only hand start big block Saito. Use the back flip, no bites at all.
06-18-2019, 01:35 PM
Two reasons I mount a 4 stroke glow engine prop horizontal, the first is as Gary said ie deadstick landings. The other is because I store my planes nose down leaning against the wall and I like the engine to be at the beginning of the compression stroke when stored; easier on the valve springs that way. My 2 stroke glow engines get clocked the same way.
My 55cc DLE gasser gets clocked to 1:00 for hand starting reasons. Hopefully the day never comes when that 22x10 Zoar gets me. I use a paint roller to start the beast.
My 55cc DLE gasser gets clocked to 1:00 for hand starting reasons. Hopefully the day never comes when that 22x10 Zoar gets me. I use a paint roller to start the beast.
06-18-2019, 04:30 PM
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AFAIK . And care, the reason for that is because in an engine stopped dead stick landing a horizontal prop is more likely to survive.
There is just as much to gain as there is to lose balance wise especially if the prop is balanced. Attempts at externally balancing are going to introduce nasty rocking couple imbalances. Yuck!
Right now I am really worried. My pet spider is missing. Last time I saw him, he was helping me pack a Saito muffler that I sent to Hobbsy.
There is just as much to gain as there is to lose balance wise especially if the prop is balanced. Attempts at externally balancing are going to introduce nasty rocking couple imbalances. Yuck!
Right now I am really worried. My pet spider is missing. Last time I saw him, he was helping me pack a Saito muffler that I sent to Hobbsy.
aaa,don't worry about it, he is probably walking home right this minute, so give him a few years to get there, unless he shows up on a Harley
Jim.
06-18-2019, 04:59 PM
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Gary, I received the Carb body today, thank you very much !!!, I have it all together and mounted and it works slick, slick, slick, thank you !!!
I will send you the original carb body in a couple days.
on a side note, I named the pilot for the Mustang today, I had to clear it with my son for I did buy the plane for him, meet the "Tater Tot Kid", what did you have for supper to day ?
Jim
I will send you the original carb body in a couple days.
on a side note, I named the pilot for the Mustang today, I had to clear it with my son for I did buy the plane for him, meet the "Tater Tot Kid"
, what did you have for supper to day ?Jim
06-19-2019, 01:01 AM
Cheer up lonnie, tomorrow is another day pal.Mind you that's easy for me to say in our timezone because compared to you i'm already there.
Gary, so right about british chrome work.What a pity the prince of darkness (lucas electrics) was usually along for the ride.
Dave when i look at keleo rings they are not designed to promote a circular exhaust gas flow so i'd fit the pressure nipple at tdc of the ring, cheers
ps jim if that spiders walking home i hope some kind person has put a leash on it.Dangerous crossing the road nowadays.
Gary, so right about british chrome work.What a pity the prince of darkness (lucas electrics) was usually along for the ride.
Dave when i look at keleo rings they are not designed to promote a circular exhaust gas flow so i'd fit the pressure nipple at tdc of the ring, cheers
ps jim if that spiders walking home i hope some kind person has put a leash on it.Dangerous crossing the road nowadays.
06-19-2019, 02:20 AM
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Dave when i look at keleo rings they are not designed to promote a circular exhaust gas flow so i'd fit the pressure nipple at tdc of the ring, cheers: (quote by Pete)
Thanks Pete, that's exactly what I'll do, if nothing else it can catch the pressure wave coming out of the exhaust port. The low speed needle is still,pretty wet, I gotta wiggle something in there to lean it. The thing is surprisingly quiet, I expected it to have a healthy bark. Please don't send me a Funnel Web.
Thanks Pete, that's exactly what I'll do, if nothing else it can catch the pressure wave coming out of the exhaust port. The low speed needle is still,pretty wet, I gotta wiggle something in there to lean it. The thing is surprisingly quiet, I expected it to have a healthy bark. Please don't send me a Funnel Web.
06-19-2019, 04:16 AM
Gary, I received the Carb body today, thank you very much !!!, I have it all together and mounted and it works slick, slick, slick, thank you !!!
I will send you the original carb body in a couple days.
on a side note, I named the pilot for the Mustang today, I had to clear it with my son for I did buy the plane for him, meet the "Tater Tot Kid", what did you have for supper to day ?
Jim
I will send you the original carb body in a couple days.
on a side note, I named the pilot for the Mustang today, I had to clear it with my son for I did buy the plane for him, meet the "Tater Tot Kid"
, what did you have for supper to day ?Jim
How did you get that rubber pilot to look just like Dave for the three days after getting bug bit?
Pete, I have spent far more time ironing out electrics on the Norwegian princesses Japanese bikes along with those of friends and neighbors, than all the 70 plus Britbikes I have owned since 1962 combined!
Ever heard of an Aussie named Mike Simcoe?
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