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Old 01-21-2007, 08:43 PM
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I think Saito is just kidding about that... Friend has a 1.25 and I have a couple 1.20's... The 1.20's will swing a bigger prop faster then the 1.25.. It appears the 1.20 has bigger valves etc then the 1.25 ... Not sure is this can be construed as more power or not
Old 01-22-2007, 07:40 AM
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Bill, you missed me for membership. See post 5886.

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Old 01-22-2007, 08:09 AM
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Sign me up!
Have three at the moment; Fa56, Fa72 and Fa100 GK. More on the way

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Old 01-22-2007, 09:12 AM
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According to RC Report
Saito 1.25 Zinger 15x8 8,500
Saito 1.20 Zinger 15x8 8,400
Saito 1.25 Zinger 16x6 8,500
Saito 1.20 Zinger 16x6 8,200
Saito 1.25 w/muffler 24.7oz
Saito 1.20 w/muffler 33.1oz

These are RC Reports figgers.
Old 01-22-2007, 05:28 PM
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ORIGINAL: Birman

Bill, you missed me for membership. See post 5886.

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Birman
Hay Bill, sign me up also for membership..
Have a Fa180 going to put in a Giant U Can Do
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Old 01-22-2007, 08:59 PM
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From what I have been reading here, a 15x7 or 15x6 would be a good prop on the Saito 1.25. The Saito will be mounted on the H9 P47.
[link]http://www.chiefaircraft.com/rcmsec/Models/PowerAirplanes/Hangar9/H9P47Thunderbolt.html[/link]

Using Wildcat 15%, 18% oil.

Does this sound appropriate?

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Old 01-22-2007, 09:31 PM
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Yes, please add me to the Sah-ee-toe club roster. I'm a relative newby--been at RCing going on 12 months. Have an LT-40 trainer w/TT.46, a Lanier ProTwister w/TT.46, and am just starting to build a SIG HOG Bipe. Bought a used Saito 100 for it from a local club member of bransonrc.org. Do you suppose there would be any problem if I used heli 30% nitro fuel in the Saito? Planning to use a 15x6 MA prop--not interested in speed.
Old 01-22-2007, 10:49 PM
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i saw a funtana s90 w/saito 120 gk, not even broken in (one season old), turning apc 16x6, 30% nitro, about 9300 (i really think it was more). he said it was over 9k w/15%. plenty of power and speed. there is no way that the 125 has as much power as the 120. mike mc conville wrote that the 125 should have a16x4w on the funtana 100 for best flying. the 16x4w is too slow and not enough bite. the 125 turns a 16x4w at the same rpm as the 120 turns a 16x6
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Old 01-23-2007, 04:05 AM
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P47...

I have a Saito 100 in a H9 P47-60 with a APC 14x8, I think you can easily go for a 15x8 prop on a Saito 125a. I also use Wildcat 15% fuel. Its fun to have a little more speed on this plane...as long as you get around 9000-9500 rpm your fine, you can also take a temp after 5 min full power
Old 01-23-2007, 05:14 AM
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whats the different between saito japan the balck box and the saito horizon
Old 01-23-2007, 05:50 AM
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I recently purchased a 2nd hand Saito 65. I am wondering it's year of production. It has what appears to be a "U" on the top of the right hand mounting bearer & a smaller <HH> on the bottom of the same bearer. Any ideas? [:-]
Old 01-23-2007, 05:56 AM
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I don't think it is very old? They started out with "A". I have a "U" and it was bought new in 2001. It could have been in the store a while?
Old 01-23-2007, 05:58 AM
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In the USA in the last 15 years I have only seen the black/gold boxes and then the white boxes.
Old 01-23-2007, 09:59 AM
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w8ye or anyone esle for that matter. There are so many knowledgable people here it's not funny.
I have a used 150 Saito that runs great and will be going in my Showtime 3D. The question is, how can I tell whether it is the older high compression version or the newer one that can be run on slightly higher Nitro fuel?

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Old 01-23-2007, 11:13 AM
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The high compression one was introduced at first.

There is a letter stamped on top of the right mounting lug if the crankcase hasn't been replaced.

A letter "A" will almost assure you that it is high compression.
Old 01-23-2007, 06:04 PM
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Hey Bill,

Are you still counting the members? I fly two FA-180's, a 120, and three 100's. Does this qualify me for membership? I have spoken with a couple of you fine gentlemen and feel I could learn a few things here.

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Old 01-23-2007, 07:36 PM
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Jim, neither my .80 nor 1.50 have any letter at all on the lug.
Old 01-23-2007, 07:40 PM
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Dave,

I know you bought them new. They must have never had a letter
Old 01-23-2007, 07:44 PM
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I sure hate having a letterless Saito, now I'm confused.
Old 01-23-2007, 07:56 PM
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Hobbsy,

What do you feel is a target rpm when propping the FA100 for scale flying? If you go too big you load up the engine, too small and you have the oposite. I have always tried to shoot for the low 9's. This is based on the advice I was given. Give me your thoughts, please.

Jim
Old 01-23-2007, 08:15 PM
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I prop most Saitos for the mid nines except the .50 down to the .30, and the 2.20 for the low eights. For example, Saito .30/Graupner 10x5, Saito .82/APC 14x6, Saito .62a/Bolly 13.5x6, inverted Saito .80/APC 14x6, etc.
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Old 01-23-2007, 08:30 PM
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One more time, my 1.00 turning a Graupner 14x8 on Fox 5% nitro/20% castor, just playin around one day.
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Old 01-23-2007, 08:33 PM
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Hobbsy,

I see from the photo I'm pretty much on target running 15%. My apologies. Earlier I thought you said 15x8. The graupner seems to have a little more bite than the APC. There are some guys in our club that have a tendency to over prop and run their engines in the mid to upper 8's. Thanks for your input.

Jim
Old 01-23-2007, 08:41 PM
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I just ordered an APC 15x6 and an APC 14x8 for the 1.00 so I can test some more using 15% fuel. My old 1.50 used to be on a Hangar 9 Cap 232 and I ran a 16x8 three blade with 1/2 inch clipped from the tips, it turned about 8,400 and never complained.
Old 01-23-2007, 08:58 PM
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i dont think running your 100 at mid to high eights is overpropping RC, i actually prop mine for 8800 to 9200, but 86 or so is not going to hurt anything IMO


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