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Old 11-21-2009, 10:09 AM
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Hey Gajeeb, take a look at this guy, its a Davis Diesel Developement Jumbo Chicken Stick. Just think of how many of those cuts aren't on my hands. Its even been knocked out of my hands a few times, I have a Saito .80 and a Saito 1.50 each with high compression.
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Old 11-21-2009, 11:58 AM
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Holy cow! That hurts just lookin' at it!
Old 11-21-2009, 12:23 PM
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You're supposed to START the motor with it... not STOP it!

Seriously, there are definately some saved fingers on that stick... wise choice.
Old 11-21-2009, 12:42 PM
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One of these days I'll figure out how to get that sleeve of of it and switch it end for end. So far it simply won't come off.
Old 11-21-2009, 04:22 PM
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ok, so whats the difference between the A and the B.....??
Old 11-21-2009, 04:53 PM
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The 82b is in the new style crankcase.
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Old 11-21-2009, 05:20 PM
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ORIGINAL: mike early

I use one of the car jumper-booster batteries, because it has an air-compressor that I use for my retracts, it's 17.5 amp-hours.

When I start my Saito 180 with it, the sullivan starter turns it faster than it idles and I never really know if it's running until I remove the starter. (It is always running).

On a side note about my Saito 180, I am having trouble finding the right prop. 10% Wildcat Extra Premium. 700' elevation. MA 18x6 is not enough prop and it winds way too high in the air. The 18x8 is better but it is at only 7900 on the ground. The 16x8 3-blader is 9300 on the ground and while it doesn't unload as much as the MA 18x6 in the air, it still sounds too fast. I just ordered a 16x10 3-blader, but the pickings are getting slim.

What do you boys use on your Saito 180?

Go with a better brand of prop . 18x6W for 3d and I use the JZ's for all around performance the Xoar felt pretty good also. All 18x6 on 30% .
Old 11-21-2009, 06:12 PM
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Michael, are the JZs Zingers or other, Thanks, Dave
Old 11-21-2009, 06:32 PM
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http://www.zingerpropeller.com/


Old 11-21-2009, 09:08 PM
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Thanks Jim, just as I suspected, Joe Zingali, makes good stuff.
Old 11-21-2009, 10:30 PM
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I had the good fortune to have given to me a pair of SAITO .65. I have no idea were to go to get the proper info on these engines. I need some parts for one of them. The one I have run is a pretty sweet old engine. Would like to put them in service. I feel sure in this Club SAITO there is some information on these engines. With 652 post, it would be like looking fo the needle in the haystack. I have a .72 that is great. My gift engines look kind of the same, but different. Anyhow if Someone could help it would be very much appreciated.
Old 11-21-2009, 10:54 PM
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The do pretty good with a 13X6 prop

Horizon has the parts
Old 11-21-2009, 10:58 PM
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Tell us what parts you need and I'll try to find them for you

http://www.horizonhobby.com/

Old 11-21-2009, 11:00 PM
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Well, I got my fingers whacked for the first, and last time, tonight.

I had the motor mounted on a test stand, flipped it a few times, then once it decided to flip back at me. So fast I couldn't get out of the way. I had forgotten what a glow motor could do to. Luckily, other than a scare and a sore knuckle, no damage, no skin broken, but a valuable lesson learned.

I did get a 1-1/2 inch harwood dowl from the basement and continue flipping with it... finally kicked off! Man, does that 450 sound great. The glow driver lets it idle so slow. It's crazy rich, and I'm going to keep it running slow and cool for a few tanks, then I'll get it mounted and see how it flies!
Old 11-21-2009, 11:02 PM
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They can knock a finger completely off
Old 11-21-2009, 11:05 PM
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I believe it! I think my last motor was a 180... this thing is like 3 150's.... lots more kick back than my 170cc gas plane. Lesson learned (the hard way). Luckily, no damage. Looks like it's time for a Super Chicken Stick!
Old 11-21-2009, 11:07 PM
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Sir that is what I would call a quick reply. In the morning when I go to the shop I will make a list. I feel sure we will have no problem getting back together, Thanks
Old 11-21-2009, 11:10 PM
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The seller tell me: the saito 82B has a new style camcase,it's can improve lubricant .
the new design saito  engine is new style camcase,like saito 40a ,saito 125a

Old 11-21-2009, 11:33 PM
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The 65 has been discontinued.

But most parts are still available if you can find them on Horizon's terrible search engine.

If you can identify the parts I will try to find them on Horizon's site and give you links to them. Or at least someone will

Here is a search list of most of the 65 parts

http://search.horizonhobby.com/index...tt=saito+G&N=0
Old 11-22-2009, 09:20 PM
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G'day

I can't tell you anything specific about the 65 apart from the fact that I have three, I use a 13 x 6 prop usually, I use fuel with 10% nitro, 5% castor, 15% synthetic and the rest methanol. The 65 is an older design and is quite heavy as it has a brass liner which is chromed. They are very docile engines and were very popular with scale model builders for their ease of use and good power for their size. I bought my first one for an ARF Sig Kadet Senior. I chose the 65 because I knew it was on the heavy side and as a result it balanced the model perfectly without any additional weight being needed. I have since bought a second hand one which looks like it has always run on castor based fuel and as a result it is a bit coked up but runs fine. My third is new in its box still waiting for an outing. Nice reliable if slightly heavy engines. Heavy compared to more recent Saitos, not when compared to OS Surpass engines.
Old 11-22-2009, 11:31 PM
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I've got an open rocker Saito 30 with a carb mounted straight onto the head. Does anyone know where I can get an intake manifold so that the tank isn't head high?

Thanks very much,

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Old 11-22-2009, 11:38 PM
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It may run OK with the tank mounted normally? Did you try it yet?

We are not talking about a 3D engine here. They run mildly

Old 11-22-2009, 11:56 PM
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Nope, I just assumed the old "1/2" below the needle valve" rule was the way to go. Do you think the tank would be OK 2" low?

Martin
Old 11-23-2009, 12:00 AM
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The carb is smaller and runs without muffler pressure. It should be fine. At least try it to prove the point to your self

the engine is more of a 9-6 engine. It doesn't run like the present 30.
Old 11-23-2009, 05:27 AM
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G'day I think W8YE is on the right track. I have a couple of Laser engines which have the carby mounted directly on the head and they run fine with no muffler pressure and the tank lower than I would have thought normal. Like your little Saito, the Lasers have smaller carbys than other similar sized engines and have no problem hauling the fuel up to the head. The alternative is to mount the engine on its side? My oldest Saito is an early 45 and it is also a "mild" runner and dose not seem to worry much about tank height either. It doesn't make much power either though.


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