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Old 04-29-2011, 05:51 AM
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Is there any difference between the Saito FA-125A "White Box" vs the "Gold Box" engines? Is the Gold Box just an earlier model?

I'm shopping for one.
Old 04-29-2011, 07:02 AM
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Gold Box engines in the USA were made prior to 2001

Europe Satios are still in gold boxes
Old 04-29-2011, 10:29 AM
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I wonder why they would go to the trouble to use different color boxes for Europe versus the USA.
Is there a difference in the engines of some type?  Such as maybe compression ratios or something?

Old 04-29-2011, 12:50 PM
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I think I heard something about the US importer wanting the white boxes, but don't know the reasoning behind it.

Sincerely, Richard
Old 04-29-2011, 06:53 PM
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Old Fart  If you are interested in Old Timer flying, (we have an avid proponent in Paul Baartz in WA) consider the following.  A Saito 62 or 65 in an 85% Lanzo Bomber, initially fitted with a 14 x 8 or better still a 15 x6 or x8  Super or Graupner paddle bladed prop in the Texaco event.  Engine limited to 6,000 rpm max (transmitter mixing) with a fixed throttle setting of 2,500 to 3,000 rpm, climb out speed running for approx between 6 and 8 minutes, on 15 ml's of 10% nitro, 20% oil fuel for a 10 minute qualifying round.  Then take same engine put a 13 x6 needle bladed prop up from tune to max RPM around 11,000 to 12,500 rpm + on YS fuel (30 - 40% nitro 20% oil) for a Duration comp (30 sec engine run for a 7 minute for the qualifying rounds) and in both modes the combination is capable of winning either of the disiplines then you can say you've been playing with tuning a Saito.  Interchange of various cams is another game all together.
I don't do videos but I'll try for some photos in June of these foamie things.  Good to see the MAAA is at long last recognising them
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Old 05-01-2011, 11:07 PM
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Hi all!

Today i received my SAITO FA-180 GK....but it misses the side-sticker that reads "180"....

How can i determine if this is really a 180 and not an FA-150 ?

I can make a comparison with my FA-150S but on the outer side these are the same.
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Old 05-02-2011, 04:39 AM
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K, your 1.80 will be 135mm tall from the very bottom of the crankcase to the top of the rocker covers and 113 mm from the crank centerline to the top of the rocker covers.

The 1.50 weighs 30oz the 1.80 weighs 31oz sans muffler.
Old 05-02-2011, 05:17 AM
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Thank you Hobbsy...it's a 180!
Old 05-02-2011, 06:37 PM
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Hi. I just bought a plane that has a Saito 300 in it. He rec'd 20/20 fuel. The only place I've found that carries gallons is Chief Aircraft. Anyone want to suggest anywhere else I can purchase the fuel online?

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Old 05-02-2011, 07:11 PM
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Search Tower Hobbies....they have some nice selection-blends of fuels.....
Old 05-02-2011, 07:23 PM
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Here are some fresh pictures!

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Old 05-02-2011, 07:26 PM
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ORIGINAL: kevinkenny

Just updating you all on my Spitfire. She should be ready to fl;y in about two weeks. The Saito 91S with Keleo muffler fits great.
Kevin
Kevin ,

have you finished your Spitfire yet ?
Old 05-03-2011, 05:16 PM
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I bought a used .91. My first duplicate in the same size. I like the .91 a lot. I run a MA 13x8 three blade on my other one. This one is going to go into a new .50 size GP Shoestring. What prop will give me the best speed, do you think? 12x11 or something near there?
Old 05-03-2011, 06:21 PM
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The .91 is just a great engine.
Old 05-04-2011, 01:50 AM
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Okay - once is a freak but twice - not so sure. 3 years ago my Saito 150 dropped a valve and effectly turned it into a paper weight! I love the engine so I bought a new 150 to install in my ESM Spitfire 150 - a great combination! On the weekend the new engine (now circa 2 years old) did the same! I never push the motors (lean) and I do check the valve clearance from time to time. I am swinging a 16X10 prop so it is not under proped and normally it starts first time.

I have not had the courage to open it up yet but I guess it will be the same story. Any ideas as to why this has happened?. Hopefully the damage is not to great and between the two engines I will have enough spare parts to get one up and running - but I am not holding my breath!

Anyone else had a similar problem with the 150?
Old 05-05-2011, 06:54 AM
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This is probably old news around here, but I thought I'd link the new engine info from Saito.

3 head radial 1.2

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...#quickOverview

Dimensional Drawings

http://www.horizonhobby.com/ProdInfo...nical_Data.pdf

This looks like the perfect engine for my Top Flite Gold Kit P-47D Razorback!
Old 05-05-2011, 07:05 AM
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I think there is more news coming. I can't get the Horizon site to work well this morning, but this is from Saito:


http://translate.google.com/translat...3DN%26pwst%3D1
Old 05-05-2011, 07:18 AM
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By making the 1.70 a 2.00 and the .90 a 1.20 they've increased the displacement but maintained the same spread. Pretty cool.
Old 05-06-2011, 04:50 AM
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Indeed my friend,now,how many saito engines of different sizes do you know of that share the same carby7anybody else??open to all forum readers please say what you think
Old 05-06-2011, 05:18 AM
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Actually, using the same carb on several different sized engines is quite common. Fox, for example does that with the .46 through .74 engines. The .46 runs faster than the .74 so the large carb works well. The .60/.74 runs slower than the .46 so the same carb again works well.
Old 05-07-2011, 04:11 AM
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Thanks for the info on fox engines,my question is directed towards saito engines and any common carbs,can you tell me what they might be if any?
Old 05-07-2011, 08:12 AM
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The Saito 50, 56, & 62 all use the same carb

The Saito 72 used the Saito 80 carb

The 82 and 91 use the same carb

The Saito 115 uses the Saito 100 carb

The Saito 150S uses the Saito 120S carb

Old 05-08-2011, 01:27 PM
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Hey thanks very much for that
Old 05-09-2011, 04:49 AM
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Sorry OF, my comment was directed toward the principle of the thing more than the brand name. I'll be clearer next time.
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Have a 1.50 inverted in a narrow cowled warbird and in order to make it fit I had to point the carb/manifold staight down towards the ground
so it is lower than the fuel tank.
Seems it's siphoning down and dripping. Is there any fix for this where I won't have to move either one? Really don't want
to cut the cowl and point the carb out the side and there's just no way to lower the tank any more than it already is.


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